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Tema: Official english statement about this sad situation

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    kokher está desconectado Junior Member
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    Hello, everyone. I'm not a native speaker so forgive my language mistakes. I'm not Spanish either, I'm a French speaker. I'm not familiar with this site, but I know very well Addic7ed, since they helped me improve my English. I became aware of this "sad situation" this morning when I was looking for Fringe's sub.
    I read all posts concerning this matter here, and some on Addic7ed's forum. But unfortunately for Gabriel, what Addic7ed's representative are telling is true and they have proof. They didn't say that all the subtitles have been stolen. But they brought to your attention the ones that have been. So the least you could do is answer them, it's common courtesy. They didn't accuse all your "community" to be stealers, just some that you should take care of. You don't even have to look for them. So please Gabriel, answer.
    This situation has brought bad publicity to your site, and by acting like that, you're hurting other Spanish people as well, and people like me. So act like a respectful admin, like I think you are, and answer to Addic7ed, that's all they ask for now.

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    jrg1234 está desconectado Junior Member
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    I think its enough for the spanish/english discuss.

    I understand that this thread is meant to be in english.

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    I didnt know anything about credit problems in subtitulos.es.

    My thoughts, as a regular user as I am, are that i'm a little disappointed with this mess.

    alex28, I understand that there is a problem with the credits being deleted by some users, and I don't agree with this practice.

    However, as I think you would understand, its very difficult to prevent this issue. It happens in the internet very usually. This is just an translation page, we don't make the subtitles, and its very wiki-styled so anyone can just delete the lines (starting by the uploader before posting to anyone on the site).

    I dont know what happened with your emails to Gabriel. I can imagine what happened, and I think you can imagine too. Its very (mix of frustrating-sad-hard-boring) to act as a policeman in your own website.

    I would like some peace and friendship over here (both adicc7ed.com and subtitulos.es) about this matter, so, lets focus in an possible solution here.

    What can we do?

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    alex28 está desconectado Junior Member
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    We can cooperate with subtitulos.
    We would email or contact any of the moderators from here when we notice something wrong. Same would be for subtitulos. Addic7ed users can confirm i answer all the emails i get, 99% of the Facebook posts and 100% of the forum posts... so from our side it's not a problem.

    Again, all we need is green light from subtitulos.

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    jrg1234 está desconectado Junior Member
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    Well thats nice.

    I think there could be an "Abuse report" button or something like that near the subs and It would be easier.

    Its ungrateful to remove the credits (both translation and sync ones) and I (and I think everyone too) think this.

    The difficult part is how to prevent it.

    If there is only one admin here (as it seems) its nearly impossible

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    kabracity está desconectado Member
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    Cita Iniciado por alex28 Ver mensaje
    We can cooperate with subtitulos.
    We would email or contact any of the moderators from here when we notice something wrong. Same would be for subtitulos. Addic7ed users can confirm i answer all the emails i get, 99% of the Facebook posts and 100% of the forum posts... so from our side it's not a problem.

    Again, all we need is green light from subtitulos.
    Hey, what's up with the 1% remaining on Facebook? I guess they won't be happy knowing they're the only one being ignored!

    Seriously, I think it's a more than fair solution to all parts. Let's wait a formal reply from Gabriel to end this whole mess =)

    @jrg1234 We do hope that this will be fixed soon with the new web, allowing multiple people to be involved in moderating/management tasks

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    I agree.
    All we were asking was simple. We want(ed) Gabriel to moderate the subtitles and ban / warn the users that behaved badly.

    In the past week he even removed the comments from the uploaded English subtitles (comments when uploading.. for example if a user wrote "found on addic7ed.com", that comment was removed).

    How can i talk to Gabriel and tell him this and that, if he never answers back?
    Also, a lot of users of subtitulos.es felt insulted, and IT WAS NOT THE CASE. We only talked about a few people that do bad things, not everyone.

    I'm sure subtitulos.es has lots of users that work and do a great job while at it... there are a few that ruin this and those should either be taught they're wrong or be banned.

    how is it possible that you say that all the users of subtitulos.es haven't to feel insulted when your statement begins with "Our reasons are the users from a spanish mediocre site (subtitulos.es) stealing and removing credits from our subtitles,"?

    i feel insulted, 'cause i'm not mediocre, i don't steal and i don't remove credits.
    If this is a matter which concerns a few members of the site, why is so important? i don't understand, or is it all the subtitles?

    i think there are another reasons for this, although it's only my opinion.

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    Sorry for mu English, this is a Spanish site and I' will no waste my time correcting my words in a foreign language. Not here.

    First: THIS IS NOT MY SITE. I'm a concerned user. I don't pay, I don't get paid. I'm not a mod or an administrator.

    Second: I'm free to talk here of whatever I want. Except if Gabriel get angry with me and deletes my posts. I didn't go to your forum in an agressive way, I was very polite and respectful. I agree with the credits part and apologized in my own name there.

    Third: with control I mean that Alex or Honeybunny can say something like "ey, buddys, Spaniard people don't eat babies and it's not necessary to burn their houses". Of course people can still think about us like if we are the most horrible country in the world, but addicted will be calm and polite.

    Fourth: I didn't change the topic, not in your forum, not in this one. We are Spanish speakers and we discuss in Spanish about all this in another topic. It's not my fault if you don't understand us, I'm doing an effort to answer you even if you has been rude. I don't have any need to do it.
    me hago fan
    ....Yo no busco calma, busco que tu alma de saltos al verme....

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    Hey, what's up with the 1% remaining on Facebook? I guess they won't be happy knowing they're the only one being ignored!

    Seriously, I think it's a more than fair solution to all parts. Let's wait a formal reply from Gabriel to end this whole mess =)

    @jrg1234 We do hope that this will be fixed soon with the new web, allowing multiple people to be involved in moderating/management tasks
    1% requests subtitles

    @lore: i am sorry if you felt offended... but it was addressed to users that steal. It is important because there's no cooperation between us and your administrator. If you are a translator here, how would you feel if i took your translation and i upload it on addic7ed saying: Translated into Spanish by Alex28.
    Última edición por alex28; 19/11/2010 a las 16:57

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    @lore: i am sorry if you felt offended... but it was addressed to users that steal. It is important because there's no cooperation between us and your administrator. If you are a translator here, how would you feel if i took your translation and i upload it on addic7ed saying: Translated into Spanish by Alex28.
    I think she might be suspicious as your Spanish isn't probably that good!!

    Nah, I think the thing is that the first statement was referring to "the users" instead of "some users" (and the use of the "mediocre" word, which as I understand as a result of being mad at the situation and not a willing to offend every single user in the web). It is much more clear on your new statement. (btw lol'ed at "*the other website*", Voldemort and the dark power came to my mind again )

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    1% requests subtitles

    @lore: i am sorry if you felt offended... but it was addressed to users that steal. It is important because there's no cooperation between us and your administrator. If you are a translator here, how would you feel if i took your translation and i upload it on addic7ed saying: Translated into Spanish by Alex28.

    don't you think that would be less offensive if add7cted would say some users of subtitulos.es?

    although, i think it's very noble of you the new message.

    at the end, all want the same, add7cted back, respect for our works in both sites and good subtitles.

    ....Yo no busco calma, busco que tu alma de saltos al verme....

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    (btw lol'ed at "*the other website*", Voldemort and the dark power came to my mind again )

    Voldemort is cool
    ....Yo no busco calma, busco que tu alma de saltos al verme....

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